Social Taboos

I forgot to mention, you can use social taboos to elicit particular frames. Mainly action frames, or at very least, thinking frames.

Basic Picture Frame Theory

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5wYAQRzJS6w

Alright guys, I tried to break this down as well as I could for you so that way you can see this in action, and relate it to interactions.

In this clip, Mimi is trying to pick up Roger. Notice it's all done with framing mainly. Those of you who have heard me talk about my picture frame theory or who have read about it this is a good example of it.

She is building several types of frames throughout this interaction. This is what would be called a beginner PU in that she is building these frames mostly one after the other instead of all together. Notice: the original frame she wants is the relationship with him. Thats her end goal, but she has to go through the motions with him.

Attraction, comfort, sexual attraction, seduction, I may have missed a few things in here, but for the most part that is whats happening in the video. Read my notes in parenthesis () actions are in brackets [] and the text is regular.

Enjoy! I'll be breaking down more videos here sometime soon. If any of you have any in-field videos I'd be happy to break down those in terms of frames as well.

Roger was toast from the beginning in this video anyway. Just pointing that out.

But lets relate Picture Frame Theory shall we...



Before a person can get what they want they have to make sure they can get the other person to agree to it. I.E. they have to make sure that their frames are set the way the person who is trying to get something needs them to be set. Mimi wanted the relationship (white box) but before she can get that she has to make sure attraction is there (red box), she has to qualify him(grey box) build comfort (black box), and build the sexual frame (blue box) and elicit emotional frame(green box) to get her relationship.

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Framing via Rent – Light my candle

[ROGER]

What'd you forget? (Control Frame)

[MIMI enters, holding a candle and looking for a match;]
[her electricity is down, too.]

[MIMI]

Got a light? (Control frame, establishing attraction)

[ROGER]

I know you? -- You're --
You're shivering (weak frame on his part but he is battling her for the control here, trying not to lay his cards on the table)

[MIMI]

It's nothing
They turned off my heat (she places a side of the frame, red box , im helpless, youre a man help me, playing on a social taboo to help build a frame)
And I'm just a little
Weak on my feet (another side of the frame, red box, im helpless frame again, social taboo to turn her down)
Would you light my candle? (forced action frame after she set the frame another side, red box, turned off the heat, weak and helpless, enforcing the taboo)
What are you staring at? (Bait for attraction frame, she knows what he’s looking at, first side of blue box, first comfort, black box)

[ROGER]

Nothing
Your hair in the moonlight (He has fallen into her attraction frame already, he just enforced the last side of the red box,)
You look familiar (semi reframe on his part, he places the first side of the green box)
[He lights her candle. MIMI starts to leave, but stumbles.]
Can you make it? (She reframed with an internal action frame and ignored his attempt since he was trying to take over the attraction frame (red box), by stumbling, makes him ask if she’s ok, second side to black box, comfort)

[MIMI]

Just haven't eaten much today (reinforcing her frame attraction, red box)
At least the room stopped spinning. (more reinforcement, she’s baiting him to chase her social taboo)
Anyway. What?

[ROGER]

Nothing
Your smile reminded me of – (he bought the chase frame, second side of green box, first side of sexual frame, blue box )

[MIMI]

I always remind people of -- who is she? (third side of green box)

[ROGER]

She died. Her name was April (fourth side, and he just reinforced the emotional side, third comfort side, black box)

[MIMI discreetly blows out the candle.] (frame was going somewhere (emotionally) she didn’t want it to go, so she re-directs to her original frame)

[MIMI]

It's out again (redirect bringing the emotion back up to good karma)
Sorry about your friend (being socially acceptable but then immediately moves on, down playing it to a friend role, not a relationship since that’s what she is looking for notice the tonality change to the next line (Shafts sub personalities post from ET’s blog))
Would you light my candle? (restating the original frame that’s already been established)

[ROGER lights the candle. They linger, awkwardly.]

[ROGER]

Well --

[MIMI]

Yeah. Ow! (creating the tension, and then breaking it, rapport break, starting to really get into the creating chemistry between the two of them here )

[ROGER]

Oh, the wax -- it's -- (he bought further into her frame here)

[MIMI]

Dripping! I like it -- between my – (first boundary of sexual frame, creating the tension, notice tonality (you can actually talk to both sub personalities with practice) she comes on a little to strong with her body language here, second side to blue box)

[ROGER]

Fingers. I figured... (the same as ASD here on his part, he’s not at buying temperature yet)
Oh, well. Goodnight.

[MIMI exits. ROGER heads back toward his guitar on the table.] (she play indifference and walks away)
[There is another knock, which he answers.]

It blew out again? (reverting back to the frame that was previously established since that is now their basis of rapport sorta challenging it at this point)

[MIMI]

No -- I think that I dropped my stash (disqualifying, deferring value now, places more value in something else instead of him, taking his mind off the frame since he is trying to destroy that original frame, trying to build more comfort, black box)

[ROGER]

I know I've seen you out and about (he’s trying to push his frame)
When I used to go out
Your candle's out (using her frame to try and keep commonalities and keep talking to her)

[MIMI]

I'm illin' --
I had it when I walked in the door
It was pure --
Is it on the floor?( after he has re-confirmed the original frame the right way, changing the subject, the first frame being the first wall of the relationship frame she really wanted)

[ROGER]

The floor? (buying into the new boundary of the original frame she wanted) (second wall of relationship she really wanted)

[MIMI gets down on all fours and starts searching]
[the floor for her stash. She lookss back at ROGER,]
[who is staring at her again.]

[MIMI]

They say I have the best ass below 14th street
Is it true? (forced sexual frame)

[ROGER]

What? (a disqualify frame, not strong)

[MIMI]

You're staring again.(forced sexual frame again)

[ROGER]

Oh no.
I mean you do -- have a nice -- (bought into the sexual frame, he is getting close to reaching BT)
I mean -- You look familiar (trying to brake the frame, he’s testing it to see how strong it is)

[MIMI]

Like your dead girlfriend? (punishing him for trying to test her frame)

[ROGER]

Only when you smile. (he tests it again)
But I'm sure I've seen you somewhere else --

[MIMI]

Do you go to the Cat Scratch Club? (buys into his frame, and baits him (since he kept bring that frame into it, she just flipped it and went with it with a bait, proper use of baiting))
That's where I work - I dance - help me look (re-directing the frame)

[ROGER]

Yes!
They used to tie you up -- (hook, line, and sinker, bit the bait.)

[MIMI]

It's a living(disqualifying)

[MIMI douses the flame again.] (bringing back the original relationship frame)

[ROGER]

I didn't recognize you
Without the handcuffs (shit test)

[MIMI]

We could light the candle (framing it in his mind to include her in his thoughts now)
Oh won't you light the candle? (bringing back the original relationship frame)

[ROGER lights it again.] (creating a semi yes chain by making him keep relighting it)

[ROGER]

Why don't you forget that stuff ( shit test)
You look like you're sixteen

[MIMI]

I'm nineteen -- but I'm old for my age (qualifying to him)
I'm just born to be bad (re-frame to sexual with tonality)

[ROGER]

I once was born to be bad (LMR/ASD)
I used to shiver like that

[MIMI]

I have no heat -- I told you (re-frame)

[ROGER]

I used to sweat (shit test)

[MIMI]

I got a cold (re-frame)

[ROGER]

Uh huh
I used to be a junkie (shit test)

[MIMI]

But now and then I like to – (buying into his frame)

[ROGER]

Uh huh

[MIMI]

Feel good (sexual framing with tonality)

[ROGER]

Here it -- um – (buys into her frame and projects one of his own, he has reached buying temp so he’s shit testing her here)

[ROGER stoops and picks up a small object: MIMI's stash.]

[MIMI]

What's that? (making him re-inforce her frame he just bought into)

[ROGER]

It's a candy bar wrapper (shit test/disqualify, flirting more and more)

[ROGER puts it behind his back and into his pocket.]

[MIMI]

We could light the candle (re frame, and re-direct)

[ROGER discreetly blows out the candle.] (re-directing to divert attention flirting)

[MIMI]

What'd you do with my candle? (shit test)

[ROGER]

That was my last match (let the seduction)

[MIMI]

Our eyes'll adjust, thank God for the moon (reframe lays her cards out after she knows hes at BT)

[ROGER]

Maybe it's not the moon at all
I hear Spike Lee's shooting down the street (LMR/shit test)

[MIMI]

Bah humbug ... Bah humbug (freeze out)

[MIMI places her hand under his, pretending to do it by accident.] (Escalation)

[ROGER]

Cold hands (seduction)

[MIMI]

Yours too. (energy shift and changing the pace, bring him out of state she owns his nuts at this point)
Big. Like my father's
You wanna dance?

[ROGER]

With you? (flirting)

[MIMI]

No -- with my father (flirting)

[ROGER]

I'm Roger (caved)

[MIMI]

They call me (she won)
They call me Mimi

[They come extremely close to a kiss.] (walks away, she owns his nuts now)
[MIMI reaches into his pocket, nabs the stash,]
[waves it in front of his face, and makes a sexy exit.]

Part 2 - Picture Frame Theory

Part 2 – Picture Frame Theory at work

Framing someone into something can be calibrated with a simple cause and effect type set up. For instance, if one is sitting on the couch and his buddy walks by, the person on the couch asks his buddy to toss him the pillow on the floor as he walks by: chances are he will since he is walking by. Take that same guy on the couch and let’s instead say that he wants something out of the way for the guy that’s walking by. Let’s say he wants something to drink.

Well, several things HAVE to be considered when implementing a frame…. For one, does that other person live there? Are they a guest or a host? If they are a host are they a good host? Are they in a good mood? Do they even like you (guy who is sitting on the couch)? These are all questions that have to be answered before a controlled frame can even be implemented.

ALL of these, though, are answered before you even bat an eyelash. This is the reason momentum and social proof are so very important.

You are sitting on the couch, and the person that walks in is the host, if they are generous they don’t even care that you are just sitting there, they may wonder why the pillow is on the ground, but regardless. Obviously they somewhat like you since they are being a host, and if they are the generous type host then they are “socially” obligated to treat you better then they would their family…. Sorta (there is a line). You ask them to throw you the pillow on the ground, he will because 1) its his pillow and he doesn’t like his shit on the ground because he takes care of his stuff, 2) he’s the generous host and 3) its on his way through. The picture frame for that person to do something is already established thus picking up the pillow is no big deal.

However, say that person on the couch wanted a drink of water, but didn’t want to get up… the kitchen is NOT on the way. Well we are still in luck, the fact that the host is of the generous kind plays to our lazy man’s plan. All he would have to do then was ask “Hey do you know if we have any ice?” Since it’s not his place its acceptable for him to ask such a question, and chances are the host would then go into the kitchen. Making a glass of water “on the way”. The host will probably ask “Do you want something to drink?” or “Yeah we have a little, why do you ask?” (in which you say “Yes, that would be lovely.” Or “I was thinking about getting something to drink.” (to which he would probably respond “what do you want, ill get it for you.” ))

Picture frame theory is about creating and acknowledging the frame around any given conversation to apply in the way you want, in hopes, for the outcome you wish for.

Take a girl giving her number out. There are a number of reasons women give their numbers out…. They’re drunk, horny, lonely, want to get rid of you and then will never answer or ask who’s this, they really like you, they want to hit on your friend, etc.. the list can go on. Regardless, you want the number…. But you want to get it under the right contexts.

Preferably the, lonely, horny, really like you frame.

How do you establish this? Well getting her to like you is simple… just follow any of the countless community ways of building attraction. The hard part is in the setting the other stages.

Think of frames as a play on stage. There are countless sets that are designed.

Your goals, and what you look for in women are the sets for your frames.

As you go through this play, you will need to set up each picture frame for whatever it is you are trying to accomplish.

By the above example, the lonely and horny parts can be achieved by establishing the life frame or in other words her “Internal Psychological Frame”. How do you do that you might ask… You use your external thinking frames and internal action frames to influence her internal thinking frame and internal action frame. Sound like greek?

Lemme break down the meanings:

These definitions are to be viewed as if in first person.

Internal Thinking Frames – Are frames inside your mind that you are consciously thinking about at any given moment about any given event, thing, person, etc… (i.e. “It’s on! She’s totally digging me” or “I’m the baddest mofo in here.”)
External Thinking Frames – Are phrases you say to make another person consciously think of something (i.e. Don’t think of a black cat.)
Internal Action Frames – Are frames that are a call to action of yourself (i.e. the 3 second rule, put your hand on her leg, etc…)
External Action Frames – are frames that are a call to action of another person (i.e. pick up that pillow, come here)
Internal Physchological Frames – are subconscious beliefs that you currently have in regards to life (inner game)
External Physhological Frames – are subconscious beliefs that another person has in regards to life

When you relate to someone these frames battle each other. For instance if I am talking to you, then my internal thinking frame is your external thinking frame, my internal action frame is your external action frame, and vice versa. What I mean by battling is that “alpha” means that you are in control, your internal frames should NEVER be sacrificed for her or anyone else for that matter unless YOU decide they can be. People will always challenge your internal frames.

So lets read that again:
By the above example, the lonely and horny parts can be achieved by establishing what her “Internal Psychological Frame” is. How do you do that you might ask… You use your external thinking frames and internal action frames to influence her internal thinking frame and internal action frame. Still sound like greek?

Framing takes so many things into consideration; this is why framing has only, up until recently, been taught in person.

That’s all for now, check back soon for part 3.

After a long.....

Sorry fathers for I have sinned, it has been almost 2 months since my last confession...

I have been quite busy actually, developing some new frame work stuff that I don't think I have seen anywhere, there may be people who know it, but I don't think they are aware that they actually know it.

What I am talking about is a break up of 6 different types of frames (at least), there may be more, however I have not found them as of yet.

Internal Thinking Frames
External Thinking Frames
Internal Action Frames
External Action Frames
Internal Physchological Frames
External Physhological Frames

Each one plays an important role in ANY interaction. You have heard El Topo, Sinn, and CJ talk about how frames are the "bounderies of how a social situation is conducted.", and I agree, however I also purpose, is a "picture frame theory" in which applies to the overall picture.

Each person has an all encompassing frame in which their entire LIFE is based. This is where all thier thoughts on ANY subject are formed, thoughts on things from sex before marriage, to abortion, to polotics and who they think should win the election and why, why they eat the foods they do, and why they act a certain way. You see a frame does define the boundry of the social interaction, however to say that one frame is the only thing that does would require one to acknowledge the fact that there are different types of frames as a whole. You can't have an atom unless you have a nucleus and protons/electrons.

Same concept.

I call this picture frame theory, and this is my best explanation of it thus far.

Each color box is representative of a certain pre-existing frame or "internal frame" that someone has in regards to ANYTHING already within their life. The grey is their internal life frame, the other colors could represent anything really however for this example we will consider the white picture frame their "sex frame". Each of the other frames that have to do with "sex" are now tied into this persons reason to or not to have sex. "The reasons are numerous, however, thanks to society and advertising, most women have a pretty standard view of sex and when they will and wont have it. I won't get into the brass tacks here since CJ has covered it pretty well here. He has also covered other aspects of boyfriend frames vs. FB frames check his blog out.

Going back to the model lets say the black frame represents her desire to be wanted in life by others.... standard woman desire, it's bred into them, however, they also want to be considered a "strong, intelligent woman" represented by the red frame, and of course, as CJ has pin pointed they don't want to be judged, represented here by the green frame, and the ability for her to keep it a secret, represented by the blue frame. Everything is taken into acount in whether or not she will or wont have sex with you (white frame) and you have to make sure you cover as many social norms as possible in regards to what frames she has.

Again, CJ has done an excellent job of pointing out the rules for gaining a fuck buddy, HOWEVER these rules apply to everything, not just fuck buddies.

Ever met someone who could talk themselves into free shit, or out of a jam? They utilize picture frame theory in regards to peoples generosity, these people are also border line con artists if not full fledged con artists.

The above is the basis to understand my 6 frames;

Internal Thinking Frames
External Thinking Frames
Internal Action Frames
External Action Frames
Internal Physchological Frames
External Physhological Frames

Ponder on that for a little bit and check back, I will release the meaning behind these 6 frames soon...

More on Framing.

As I sit here shitting, and typing on my laptop....

Let me guess.... you just pictured a guy shitting.... and typing.... chances are, you pictured yourself as that guy...

Lesson 1: CJ has said this before... whatever youre talking about, is happening in their mind.

All game is, is framing.

The act of constantly being sexual, so that way when you are that way to her, you aren't weird. And yes that includes being sexual with your buddies too you sick bastards.

Being alpha also means not giving in to homosexual jokes and nipple tweaks.

Setting the right frames helps tremendously. Being able to read body language helps to set the right frames from the get go.

These are all just random thoughts at the moment.... I must wipe.

First Video Blog

Video Post... Test run

No Scrubs

No Scrubs

A scrub is a guy that thinks he's fly
And is also known as a buster (busta, busta...)
Always talkin' about what he wants
And just sits on his broke ass
So (no)

I don't want your number (no)
I don't want to give you mine and (no)
I don't want to meet you nowhere (no)
I don't want none of your time and (no)

Chorus:
I don't want no scrub
A scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me
Hanging out the passenger side
Of his best friend's ride
Trying to holler at me
I don't want no scrub
A scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me
Hanging out the passenger side
Of his best friend's ride
Trying to holler at me

There's a scrub checkin' me
But his game is kinda weak
And i know that he cannot approach me
Cuz i'm lookin' like class and he's lookin' like trash
Can't get wit' no deadbeat ass
So (no) (yea, yea)

I don't want your number (no)
I don't want to give you mine and (no)
I don't want to meet you nowhere (no)
I don't want none of your time (no)

Chorus

If you don't have a car and you're walking
Oh yes son i'm talking to you
If you live at home wit' your momma
Oh yes son i'm talking to you (baby)
If you have a shorty that you don't show love
Oh yes son i'm talking to you (yea yea yea yea...)
Wanna get with me with no money
Oh no i don't want no (oh)

No scrub (no scrub, no love)
No scrub (no no) (no scrub, no love)
No scrub (no no no no no)
No scrub (no no)
No

Chorus

Chorus

Left eye:
See, if you can't spatially expand my horizon
Then that leaves you in a class with scrubs never risin'
I don't find it surprisin'
If you don't have the g's
To please me and bounce from here to the coast of overseas
So, let me give you somethin' to think about
Inundate your mind with intentions to turn you out
Can't forget the focus on the picture in front of me
You as clear as dvd on digital tv screen
Satisfy my appetite with something spectacular
Check your vernacular
And then i get back to ya
With diamond like precision
Insatiable is what i envision
Can't detect acquisition
From your friend's expedition
Mr. big willy if you really wanna know
Ask chilli, could i be a silly ho
Not really, t-boz and all my senoritas
Is steppin' on your filas
But you don't hear me though

Chorus

Chorus

KKK <3's Obama!?

http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=117&a=1227

KENTUCKY - USA - Imperial Wizard, Ronald Edwards has stated that, "anything is better than Hillary Clinton."


White Christian Supremacist group the Ku Klux Klan has endorsed Barack Obama to be the next President of the United States of America.

Speaking from his Kentucky office in Dawson Springs, the Imperial Wizard exclaimed that anything or anyone is better than having that "crazy ass bitch" as President.

This is the first time in Klan history that any member of the KKK has ever publicly supported an African American candidate for the presidency.

KKK lodges all over America have been gathering and holding rallies supporting the black presidential candidate.

Grand Turk Cletus Monroe has also been very vocal about the election and has donated thousands of dollars to Obama's election fund.

"The boy's gonna do it. My Klan group has donated up to $250,000 to the Obama fund. Anything is better than Hillary Clinton. Hell I'll even adopt a black kid from Africa before I vote for Hillary."

"A few years back we were lynching negroes. Now we're gonna vote for one to be president of the US of motherfu**ing A, damn it! Anyone or anything is better than Hillary Clinton - anything!!"

Placards for Barack Obama have been put up around the Klan's Headquarters and the KKK have announced a television ad campaign to support the African American candidate.

Notes of Game ..

.... And David Deida.





I want to create a frame for her of a feminine frame, I then want to take the masculine frame.
FRAME HER INTO FEMININE. Think of ways to frame her into feminine after I open and create attraction.

If you knew that you would be dead in 3 days, what would you want to accomplish?

Ground my masculine frame and make it deep.

Create a masculine goal and change emotions in her while leading towards the goal.

Don’t ask questions. Instead lead, the frames are fluid as well.
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Notes on David Deida. Part 1

Current Society = Neutrality between masculine and feminine
Masculine and feminine make up the poles for sexual polarity.
1st Stage of Masculine – Macho Jerks (Feminine = Housewives) Rigidness
2nd Stage of Masculine – Free Spirits (Feminine = More dominant) Neutrality
3rd Stage of Masculine – Neutrality to choose and acknowledge when to use it from both parts.
Masculine Mastery balance is master of the 2 polar opposites.
Sexual Polarity is created between the 2 polar opposites.
1st stage – Selfish
2nd stage – Making the world better
3rd stage – Transcends a lifetime S

uperficial Desires – If you live on the basis of superficial desires then you start living by feelings, such as fears. Such as fears of not making enough money, not finding someone to love, being alone, etc...
Live instead, on your deepest love. Your deepest purpose. Stop doing, start feeling.
As you feel the source of every thought, it creates an impulse.
Follow the impulses that are created in solitude.
What would you need to become before you die, so that you can die complete?
Set up my life so that I may earn a living and die complete.
Give and let go. It doesn’t matter what happens You give an let go. Love, passion, emotion. Do not get attached.
Getting attached is feminine, and maintaining rigidness is masculine, that is the balance of both. Give and forget.
How do you stay on track?
Trusting your own mind and body is a mistake.
Growing from dependence to independence, (moving from 2nd to 3rd stage)
If I keep changing my mind, without accomplishing the goal, it creates distrust.
Ground my masculine to create trust. Am I willing to constantly feel the feminine without hoping to end anything?
Feminine is always changing, the mind is always changing, it will never stop. So defining a point to focus on is impossible with the feminine. (Hence the dancing butterfly)
Masculine is the rigidness to stay focused, and embrace the feminine and love it while staying focused. (Hence lead with the masculine goal in mind, and use some chick crack interspersed.)
Do not voice that in with has been sourced in the feminine, instead my goals should be rooted in the masculine.
Feel motivation. Motivation is the purpose.
When a woman is in the feminine her mind changes, feminine emotions change.
Don’t bother to ask “What are you feeling?” Questions change the flow of feminine frame.
Instead just go with the flow.
Masculine grows through challenge and criticism.Feminine grows through praise.

FR: VDay Blowout

There was literally nothing out last night, what a dissapointment.

I open with "Happy Valentines".... Yay!
I ask them if cupid missed them too. HBred was a little reluctant to open. But she eventually did.

All in all I think this was one of the most boring sets I have ever been in.

Fenix winged and kept them going, if it wern't for him I'd surely have just said fuck it, (excellent job mate) and Vector and his company pulled back-up duty.
I really was bored out of my mind in this one.

Myspace closed the target, and #closed the OB.

We'll see what happens, altough I don't think it'll be much. I'm not really interested in HBred. She doesn't like sports (e.g. football) and that's a big turnoff for me.

Text Battle

I wanted to share a text battle I had with a girl just a moment ago.

Me: (I used GS's V-day closing from the Austin Society) Happy unimaginative, consumerist, entirely arbitrary, manipulative and shallow interpretation of a romance day!

Her: Ooh. Someone is a little bitter about St. Valentines day. Do you not have a date or something? It's alright, you're still hot!

Me: Where's your date missy?

Her: Haha I broke up with the guy I was seeing about a week ago. it happens, I should have planned it better.

Me: Haha u should have. Ill tell you what. Ill pick u up and I promise ull have the worst vday ever. Ill even let you buy dinner. Sound like fun?

Her: Greaaaaaat. Love it

Me: Great. Pick you up at 8 then.

Her: Hahaha. Nah. I'm high maintenence.

Me: Awesome! Then you can look at yourself in the mirror as im hittin it from behind. Haha

Her: Ha! Youre not endearing yourself to me. I'm actually going to go out with some girlfriends I think.

Me: Way to waste all this awesome flirting we've had going on here.

Her: Haha Well I don't know. High maintence girls just like being chased I guess.

Me: What are you talking about?

Her: I'm just teasing you.

Me: If youre gonna tease me... U have to follow through. And I dont think you have it in you.

Her: I doubt I would fuck you if that's what youre saying. I don't see you putting in the kind of effort it would take. I don't do one night stands No matter hot the guy.

Me: Whoa! Slow down pumkin. I need comfort and trust before I can do that.

Her:Lol you're cute.

Me: Thanks.

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Questions, comments, critique. Thanks.

Framing

Most of you know I have been studying frames more recently. This is just a post of my observations thus far, it may or may not be revolutionary, but I dont care. This is just what I have noticed about frames as of late.

El Topo's post on Frames.
http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/2007/11/frames.html

I've been following ET and CJ's takes on frames more recently.

FRAMES are CRUCIAL to any PUA's game. Any PUA who can master frames and frame games and such, has a very good chance of blowing the door wide open when it comes to their limits in game.

I've noticed, frames are used everyday, in every conversation, glance, and look. Every body position tells a story and anything that a person does sets a frame. I am curious..... Is there a way to set an "approachable" frame. Like if a girl is extremely attracted to you, and she's giving you the "fuck me" eyes, can you frame her, from a distance to approach you instead using body language and eye contact? Is this why some guys seem "more approachable" than others?

Also, I'm curious about how far the frame should go when dealing with the cockblocks. Where exactly is that line that you must draw in order for you to successfully bounce or "steal" your target, when using frames?

A list of the frames I have observed over the past 2 days:
Teacher frame
Customer frame
Employee frame
Seducer frame
Seducee frame
Party guy frame
Caring guy frame
Friend frame
Attraction frame (including here, sexual attraction, friendship attraction, aquintance attraction)
- Going into more detail about these frames, they go in stages, Aquintance first, meaning that they like you enough to continue to talk to you for a little but not enough to give the number, friendship attraction frame means you arent going sexual with your attraction material, and the sexual attraction frame means you are.)
Authority frame
Subordinate frame
Playful submissive frame
Playful dominent frame

Each frame can actually have multiple frames inlayed into them inherently thus making a frame that much more transparent from what I can tell.

From what I gather, if you take a frame down to the basics, it all comes down to a give/take type relationship.

For instance the simple command, "Get me a glass of water while you're up." Could have multiple types of inlayed frames, due to tonality, voice inflection, and body language. (This is the reason texting is so hard to do sometimes, understanding framing will help with your text game a ton.) So lets add this to that phrase,

Your mom is bed ridden and you are taking care of her, you are in her room talking to her and you get up to go get some grapes.... she says it in a very subordinate frame that implies "taking pity" on her. It's not authoritative and thus puts you in control. Although you are likely to get her a glass of water regardless of what tone she uses or whether or not she uses an authoritative framing position, the fact that she conveys a "take pity on me" atitude and tonality puts her in control, because she is subconsiously pulling at your soft spot and you don't notice.

Take that same line, "Get me a glass of water while you're up" and apply it to a bar scenario, you and the dudes are chillaxin, sippin on some, and you are tired of beer, you want some water, but you pinned in.... a buddy is gonna go to the bathroom.... you say in a very subordinate frame "get me some water" and they are likely to respond favorably since you arent taking an authoritative stance.

Of course this all goes down to how you grew up. Some people have grown up being very submissive (like myself) and have had to break the cycle. Of course you have to be able to recognize that in which you intend to break. Constantly being in a subordinate, submissive frame is what is typically called, "Being Beta".
Just as being in a authoritative, dominate frame makes you alpha.

I think, I haven't tested yet, that it doesn't matter what type of frame it is as long as it is the dominant version of it. I think every frame has an authoritative side, and a subordinant side as a fundamental law to negative/positive theories. For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.... Just some are beta moves and some are alpha. Which ones are you exhibiting?

Frames

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_model

I have been studying frames and framing as well as more inner game stuff as of late.

Framing is oddly intriguing, and I feel I don't fully grasp the concepts behind it. Or maybe I do grasp the basics... just not the advanced stuff.... I always try and get ahead of myself.

I'll post more about my observations later.

CJ

Cj's posts are the shiznit.... check out his stealth frames.... he's on the right.

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Update

***Update***

FClosed HBSister last night. That was a freakin, weird ordeal.

The whole night we are vibing sexually and flirting back and forth. Kissing, making out, and so on... Later that night we get back to her place, get into bed and things start to heat up. We start touching I get hard, and pull out the Kung Fu penis, she responds by sucking my finger and dry humping me, then she rolls over and starts to watch the movie again. I know you guys don't want to hear this but for this stories sake, deal with it. By this point I of course have a wood thats about to bust out of the boxers, and she just stopped. Ok thats fine, she beat me to the punch that time, no worries, right? Wrong. I lose the tent Im pitchin.

We start making out again, I'm poking her in the ass, rubbing her pussy through her shorts, and sucking on her titty...... she stops again.... no tensing, no warning ... just puts the breaks on. Rolls over and..... continues to watch the movie..... I again... lose erection. God damnit I am closing this one tonight if I have to die trying.

Just as quickly as she turns it off, she turned it BACK ON, rolled over on top of me and begins to dry hump again.... Originally I would speculate that shes maybe a virgin... but she has a kid. I get wood, and say fuck it... caveman this shit. I flip her off me, and get on top of her, she likes it. She likes me getting forceful.. I think awesome I finally get to play, "Just the tip, just for a little to see how it feels." ..... WRONG! She clams up, watches the movie and I AGAIN lose erection.... Ok....

One more time, by this point Im getting fed up. By this point we have dry humped for about 2 hours.... Im to the point where I am almost rubbed raw.... this shit sucks... Im thinkin possibly a BJ at this point, not likely though.

Again, she rolls back ontop of me, and starts going at it.... Shirt is off. Houston we have nipple suction. And once again, we have lift off. Things are going swimmingly.. Pants come off, since Im getting rubbed raw, both hers and mine. and just as quickly as it started... it ends... shes off, watching the movie, and I once again..... lose the erection.

NOW I am COMPLETELY turned off. I could care less...I have it in my mind that I am not gonna hit it tonight. At this point I didn't think Jessica Alba and Jessica Simpson making out could make me pop wood. Im sore as shit, completely turned off despite the bitchin body on top of me, and I am rapidly developing a case of blue balls. She initiates once again, I dont respond.

I watch the movie, she tries harder, still no response. After about 30 more minutes of no response she starts biting me.... it fucking hurts.... I hate biting. So I pull her hair. MIKEY LIKES! She totally responds to that. Holy hell.... bitch if I would have known you were kinky then I would have skipped the pleasantries and just stuck it in your ass. .... Damn.

I pull hair, and actually semi get turned on because of this.... normally this IS the creme de la creme of my sexual wishes.... I love pulling hair, smackin asses, and being rough and I am pretty good at filtering the girls sexual style through questions ive asked before, but she didnt let anything be known to me beforehand. What a whore.

To this point I have gotten and lost my erection 6+ times within 3 hours. I dont know about you guys, but after 2 hours it is extremely hard for me to continue to function if I have maintained sexual activity with no break. This is fucking pushing it... Finally.... the tip goes in. Great. Shes on top and riding it. I flip her over and hit it missionary style.... she pushes me off and gets on her knees....

BUT before she does that she does something weird, like touching herself or something....??? I lose my focus... I start picking up ambient noise in the background... the part of the movie was I now pronounce you chuck and larry, and the part was when the guy was stuck in the chimney thing... and they were fighting.... HILARIOUS.... but not good for maintaining wood as your hitting it from behind.... I have to stop I cant fucking concentrate.

Fellas.... not my finest moment.... but god damit with what I had to go through for this one, Im counting this one as a close, fuck what ya'll say.

HBmagiceye and I have a day 2 set up. Awesome. I didn't think anything was working out really, so I pushed her off. She came back. Weird.

/***Update***

Lessons.... fuck what they want... I should lead and they should tell me as I am getting what I want, what they want.

Theres a reason they say "In the event that the oxygen masks drop, put yours on first." Even before children.

70 Sets

I decided to keep track of my next 70 sets for three reasons:

1.I need to start evaluating my previous sets better. 2. I need to start keeping track of things in general. and 3. 70 is a requirement to get into the Austin thingy. Here are my first 3.

1. Per the stylelife challenge, I had to geniunly compliment 4 women. Style said I could use people I know.... but wheres the fun in that. I consider this all 1 because it was a SLA thing and really I didnt do anything but fullfill the mission. I had a lazy day. First girl, Anna, had gorgeous green eyes.... absolutely stunning. I wish I would have "sarged" her..... hindsight. Second girl had a pretty artistic flare. Didn't get her name, but she had green eye shadow and green accessories to match. I normally dont like the grunged out hair look, number 3 had it. She wore it well, a little young but whatever. Girl 4, had a pretty eclectic sense of style, Totally mismatched, which was oddly cool. I realized I only remembered 1 of their names. I must work on that and continue to push all interactions. All but 1 of these was day game.

2. Set number 2 bombed horribly. I used a direct opener for the first time in a mixed 3 set. I met up with Persian Prince at Northpark and after lunch I noticed a cute blonde, HB7. I noticed as she walked over to her group after getting her food. While she was placing her order I actually had opened her in the line I had told her and another girl I was going to cut in front of them to grab a refill right quick. Hindsight is I should have sarged her there instead. BUT, I decided I wanted to use my direct opener, AND Persian Prince brought up a GRAND idea. Going direct on a group to just your target..... That'll be a toughy, but I'm down. Upon first glance I think it's three ladies but as I approach I notice 1 is a dude with really long hair. I didn't plan for this, but whatever. Im a PUA right? Fuck it.

Me: "ex-excuse me."

Her: Oh Hi

More stuttering and I finally get my opener out... I FTC WAY too soon, My transitions were sloppy, and I totally ignored everyone else, didnt make enough eye contact, looked away. I immediately get, " I have a boyfriend." I went in with an agenda. I came out with nothing. Note to self .... dont have an agenda next time. Halfway through the interaction I forget about sarging and actually listen to Andrew. I forgot the 2 female names... but Andrew wants to sky dive naked..... disturbing. This was embarrassing I thought. I was seated though and we all had a conversation, but this one, I thought, reminded of me when I first started..... This was a day set.

3. I am only counting real sets. There was someone with me that had asked me about framing so I showed them what I knew on a couple of sets. But this next set I am really proud of. HB8ish Is that what you'd give her, Afterlife? She was wearing blue pants. Nice ass from what I could tell. I am still on my direct opener kick. I get this one almost perfect. Still needs some work. I fudge a couple of lines, and I found out I am not prepared. It seems that this opener has had the same effect on both the sets I have used it on thus far. They stutter and cant come up with anything intresting because they are caught off gaurd. They have both blushed, so I need to rethink the type of transition I use. After a slight delay, I get things going again. Her brother is an attorney, and she loves fashion. She has a boyfriend too, so she wont give me her number out of respect to him, but she will give me her email. Hindsight, I only spent about 2 or 3 minutes in set so I definately needed more comfort before I try and get the number. I FTC at the right point, but again it needs a little more comfort next time around, and quite possibly a heart melter or other form of DHV. This was a day set.

4. Night starts off a little earlier than normal. Decide to meet up with Ca$h and Professor at Sherlocks earlier in the day. Vector texts me and says he and his little lady are rollin out too. Awesome! Haven't seen them in a while and she seems to be mad at me for some reason I still lub her though. I roll in alone, and REALLY have to piss. I live like about 40 minutes away and the Red Bull and water that I downed earlier is kicking in. (Red Bull is better than crack.... seriously.) As I hold my member, Professor texts, "Here, where you is?" I text back, "Holding myself and thinking of you."..... ok that last part is a lie, BUT I thought about it... youre lucky Professor.

Find him, grab beer, the place is kinda dead, get an important call that I take ... 20 minutes later, I do some short sets, as we are waiting for Ca$h. Mostly sausage, so I assertively start my dominance routines, and Professor and I chat a bit about AI's we were getting. Most alpha guy there... Check. (Besides my wings of course, they kick ass, too. I like goin out with them, it always takes the pressure off.) I've wanted to analyze AI's a little bit more thouroughly as of recently, from what I can tell, is you have approximately 10 seconds to approach before they'll leave, if youre just standing there. If you don't approach before then, kiss that set good bye. They will also pivot their bodies alot. So if you are having a hard time identifying an AI then you have to look for pivoting. They pivot because they want to make sure that you are at least semi looking at them, could be other reasons, that was my first actual observation of AI's, as I never really thought about them before. The more you are in set, the more AI's you get, and those AI's will stay around. Place picks up a bit and I open my first girlie set of the night. Mixed 5 set 3 guys, 2 girls. Ask the "more alpha" guy if he knows that guys name from Datelines, To catch a predator... Chris something or other... The girls immediately offer their opinions. "It's on the tip of your tongue." some more banter, I decide I see a better 4 set approaching, 4 lovely ladies, I then....

5. Open them... Me: "HEY! You know it! I know you do."
Her: Know what?
Me:(Point to everyone I was just talking to including Professor who was coming back) We were trying to figure out what that guys last name from to catch a predator is.
HBChris Hanson: Why are you one of those sexual predators? (They all chime in)
Me: YES I am. Come here you. (HUG)
Them: (laughing) Me: no bet seriously I NEED to know this it's important.
Her: Hanson.
HBChris Hanson: I'm chris hanson.
Me: You look like em. (stick tongue out.) Professor comes in.
Me: Hanson... Chris Hanson (hands me a beer)(thanks buddy) Oh hey bro thanks, Guys this is Professor, Professor.... Um... I dont know who they are.
Girls: They intorduce themselves. (Except chris hanson.... she affirms her alter ego)

I turn and re engage the previous set
Me: Hey its hanson.
Them: some more talk. the girls: YES Hanson!
Me: Not the band *shake my head* Girls *laugh*

I turn back around. Prof then skillfully picks up the other 2 I wasnt really intrested in. A little banter back and forth between the 4 of us. As me and the other 2 girls were talking the other 2 try and leave, and TRY to pull them away, but I keep re-engaging because I saw that they were blowing their friends off for me... lol instant gratification. I then shoo them along as my wing is back and we have "grown up" things to talk about. 2 AI's. It's amazing, make the group laugh and get rises, that is the true AI magnet.

If you want AI's you can
1) naturually be good looking, or
2) make em laugh. All of them, guys included.

6. Ca$h texts me, "Here"........."Cool at the pool tables." We wait a bit.... talk.. wait..20 minutes later Im tired of waiting... seriously Ca$h did they have to frisk you at the door or something? Did they see that big honker of a thing you call a penis and just feel like they HAD to see it? WTH. Prof and I walk upstairs and finally see Ca$h walk in... He didn't see us and goes left... Damnit... Im not chasin em. Open up some more men sets in that area, that will later be used to assert more alphaness amounst that area. I think my opener for these 2 sets was.... "Dude, what the hell is that? (pointing at their drinks) One convo went like this. It was a miller lite..... piss.

Me: Thats like piss man.
Beta 1: It's what he got me man (pointing at his friend),
Me: It's ok man we can't all be perfect.... Where' your ladies I wanna hit on em?
Beta 1 and 2: Haha just us bro.... Me: Oh... damn... lol can I hit on you instead (start walking away)
Beta1: (pointing to Beta 2) him maybe.
Me: Righhht, ill catch up with ya'll later
Them: Later.

As I leave I see a 2 set eyeing me from the corner of my eyes..... Hindsight... I should have opened.

7. Find Prof because they have a habit of walking in front of me... and I have a habit of opening sets as I am walking... so They keep walking and I get into sets.... this occurs pretty often. Prof leanrs to wlk behind me though lol .... Ca$h on the other hand never learned.... I will lose him throughout the rest of the night. Sorry buddy. Run into Ca$h and he takes a piss... then we push him into a set. He does extremly well, considering he's practically still a PU virgin.... We'll bust that cherry of yours soon man. It's getting crowded now.... and I LOVE when it gets crowded... It gives a very effective open like this validity... however this one could be used in general. (Misex 6 set 3 girls, 3 guys)

Me: hey man, did you just grab my ass?
Brother: Nah man, lol what the hell?
Me: no dude Im serious, you gotta watch these fuckers round here.. I just had my ass grabbed. (Ladies listening intently) and it wasn't like a faminine grab, it was like a firm grab
HBSister: Like this *grabs my ass*
Me: no, nothing like that... (in her ear) hold out you hand.
HBSister: (complies)
Me: (smack her hand) (in her ear) next ones on your ass if you do that again.
HBSister: (grabs my ass again)
Me: Thats its, bend over She then thrusts her ass into my crotch and I spank it.... Everyone looks haha. Some hugs in there.
Brother: Hey man thats my sister....
Me: Haha you didnt beat her up enough when you were younger then.
Brother: AHH haha its cool man
Me: Hey We totally love each other (hugs)

I figure now would be a good time to figure out how the rest of the group is related. lol that was close. After I find that out I get a text from Vector. Theyre there... I decide to eject at a high point, go meet up with them since I havent seen his sexy ass in a while, another beer, and try... notice I said try to assist with Ca$h's set.... (I ended up #closing and day 2ing HBSister later that night. As well as Isolating, kclosing and parading her.) I find him but he's already out of set, and standing next to Chris Hanson and company. I re-open by kicking Chris Hansons ass. Me, Ca$h and Prof are in set with them. I get some hugs in somewhere... I get the green light from the other 2 OB's that were trying to pull them away earlier. I do so with the intent of re-opening them later to close HBChris Hanson..... little do I know I never get the chance. By this point: Social Proof.... Check.

8. The last set I don't remember too much about.... by this time Vector is pretty toasty, and I see a walking Magic Eye puzzle. I point it out. it was a 3 set of ladies. We get into set and I know that my wing(s) wingmanship shined in that interaction.... I totally had isolation right there WITHOUT having to move. What more could I ask for? I had about 20 minutes with HBMagic Eye. I do remember that during the conversation she said that she liked my Magic Eye pick up line but she's heard them all... I said

Me: Baby, thats not a pick up line, and you havent heard this one. "Are your a parking ticket?" Her:.... um no.
Me: Cause baby youve got fine written all over you.
Her: hahaha never heard that one (she hugs me)
Me: I know uh.

I end up #closing her as they leave. .... Not a strong close I think, but we'll see what happens. Lessons for the night....... Focus on comfort material and transitioning more. My comfort was decent, but it needs to be better, and my transitioning needs to be flawless......
Opening, Check.
Attraction.. Check.

By the way .... I have a bet with... I think Afterlife or Fenix..... I am supposed to get a lay by my 7th set. I think, I may have accomplished that with the 7th set..... Too soon to tell. Ill keep you posted on the day 2. I totally didn't mean for it to happen that way

9. HBBTstripper was #closed at cowboys. While being a wallflower, I actually made an observation. I had noticed this actually several times before this night and this was actually the first time I had verbalized anything.

The observation was that you can always tell whether a girl is a stripper, was a stripper, or wants to be one, by the way she dances to rock songs. Rock if a girl can shake that ass to led zepplin, van halen, aerosmith, or (insert favorite rock group here) then you can damn well bet she's got something to do with taking clothes off for money, or at very least has thought about it.

With that observation I state to the fellas, and then point out all the girls dancing. Most of them danced like white guys normally dance..... except HBBTstripper. She was shakin it with the best of 'em. I had to therefore ask, you know, to prove myself correct in my assumptions.

Me: So what club do you dance at?
Her: What?
Me: You heard me, dont play coy.... what club?
Her: Are you calling me a stripper?
Me: If you perfer to be called that.
Her: *shocked look* *hits me*
Me: I'll take that as a yes.
Her: *hits me* I turn around and walk off. I later #close her, I actually had to be pushed to close.....go figure. Thanks guys for that. Day 2 is pending. This is a weekday day 2 girl since she dances and works at a bar.

10. Later that same night PicturePerfect gets opened by a Calista Flockhart look-a-like. Her ensuing friend leaves for a bit, but then comes back... followed by some guy. I wing. This is a rare occurance....

Usually I don't think I "wing" on a regular basis. So I play the "next shiney object" game. and I keep it up for about 20 to 30 min. I go "dance" with the girl OB .... the guy follows and stands there and watches as I dance with his girl, and just to clarify... I dont dance. As a matter of fact I play "lets run into as many people on the dance floor as possible". Thats my idea of fun.

So we do that.... of course, its near closing time and there are only about 8 couples dancing.... I dont think its obvious we are criss-crossing the dance floor just to run into someone new. Its fun, we both have fun and she gives me several IOI's... although I don't know what they are... I forgot. The next shiney game is not to be played if you plan on insta-dating, or bouncing.... If you are winging you also really need to have good solid game throughout to truly be beneficial to your wing, should he decide to bounce and whatnot.

I #close her, thinking we weren't bouncing and really had no intention of continuing conversation..... But then we bounce... The rest of the night didn't go to well. my target was on her phone the entire time. Extremely hard for me to do much. I didn't pre-empt a whole hell of alot, and therefor fucked up a very good shot at an SNL.... if thats what we wanted. They turn out to be under 21.... and a little weird. PP and I both noticed it, but couldn't really pin-point anything. He thinks it's because they had never experienced anything like us.... he may be right... may be right indeed. I've talked to her several times since that night.... shes still crazy.

11. I am going to school to become a parallegal. Well, i contacted the president of the parallegal club. Just as luck would have it, most parallegals are women. Thats awesome, I definately wanna be in this club then..... if they're hot. I call her up. Ring ring

Her: Hello?
Me: well hello there.
Her: haha hi.
Me: Hi, im Finesse and I was calling bout the parallegal club. blah blah blah. her: why do you want to join? Me: Im all about networking.
Her: me too, i swear by it.
Me: thats awesome... You know... I dont really tell people this... BUT I am actually a member of a super secret undergroup lair of seduction artists that specialize in enhancing skills to be able to network...... and seduce women. Are you seduced yet?
Her: Doooo What?
Me: Its true. I swear it.
Her: hahahahahah OMG
Me: I like Michael Jackson, do you?
Her: Love him.
Me: Thats good... cause Ive totally been on this 80's music kick. Just so ya know.
blah blah blah ...

that bout rounds up the attraction material. I build a little comfort as well in there and just shortly after the michael jackson schpill.
Just things Ive "noticed" about her and things about me. Of course I already have her number. but she myspace closes me.

Oneitus

Oneitus - n. a person that has consumed your thoughts. A person that has become one of the things you think about on a continuous basis.

How does a person actually get to the point where all they can think about is someone else? I can't stop thinking about her. She is amazing in every way. I have yet to find something I don't like about her.

But it's weird. We both want each other, but she just got out of a relationship and doesnt want to be exclusive with anyone yet. I guess I need to go game other people. . . . . and not be entirely excessible.

Funny how that works.... to keep them you have to push them away.

God certainly is a comedian.