Framing

Most of you know I have been studying frames more recently. This is just a post of my observations thus far, it may or may not be revolutionary, but I dont care. This is just what I have noticed about frames as of late.

El Topo's post on Frames.
http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/2007/11/frames.html

I've been following ET and CJ's takes on frames more recently.

FRAMES are CRUCIAL to any PUA's game. Any PUA who can master frames and frame games and such, has a very good chance of blowing the door wide open when it comes to their limits in game.

I've noticed, frames are used everyday, in every conversation, glance, and look. Every body position tells a story and anything that a person does sets a frame. I am curious..... Is there a way to set an "approachable" frame. Like if a girl is extremely attracted to you, and she's giving you the "fuck me" eyes, can you frame her, from a distance to approach you instead using body language and eye contact? Is this why some guys seem "more approachable" than others?

Also, I'm curious about how far the frame should go when dealing with the cockblocks. Where exactly is that line that you must draw in order for you to successfully bounce or "steal" your target, when using frames?

A list of the frames I have observed over the past 2 days:
Teacher frame
Customer frame
Employee frame
Seducer frame
Seducee frame
Party guy frame
Caring guy frame
Friend frame
Attraction frame (including here, sexual attraction, friendship attraction, aquintance attraction)
- Going into more detail about these frames, they go in stages, Aquintance first, meaning that they like you enough to continue to talk to you for a little but not enough to give the number, friendship attraction frame means you arent going sexual with your attraction material, and the sexual attraction frame means you are.)
Authority frame
Subordinate frame
Playful submissive frame
Playful dominent frame

Each frame can actually have multiple frames inlayed into them inherently thus making a frame that much more transparent from what I can tell.

From what I gather, if you take a frame down to the basics, it all comes down to a give/take type relationship.

For instance the simple command, "Get me a glass of water while you're up." Could have multiple types of inlayed frames, due to tonality, voice inflection, and body language. (This is the reason texting is so hard to do sometimes, understanding framing will help with your text game a ton.) So lets add this to that phrase,

Your mom is bed ridden and you are taking care of her, you are in her room talking to her and you get up to go get some grapes.... she says it in a very subordinate frame that implies "taking pity" on her. It's not authoritative and thus puts you in control. Although you are likely to get her a glass of water regardless of what tone she uses or whether or not she uses an authoritative framing position, the fact that she conveys a "take pity on me" atitude and tonality puts her in control, because she is subconsiously pulling at your soft spot and you don't notice.

Take that same line, "Get me a glass of water while you're up" and apply it to a bar scenario, you and the dudes are chillaxin, sippin on some, and you are tired of beer, you want some water, but you pinned in.... a buddy is gonna go to the bathroom.... you say in a very subordinate frame "get me some water" and they are likely to respond favorably since you arent taking an authoritative stance.

Of course this all goes down to how you grew up. Some people have grown up being very submissive (like myself) and have had to break the cycle. Of course you have to be able to recognize that in which you intend to break. Constantly being in a subordinate, submissive frame is what is typically called, "Being Beta".
Just as being in a authoritative, dominate frame makes you alpha.

I think, I haven't tested yet, that it doesn't matter what type of frame it is as long as it is the dominant version of it. I think every frame has an authoritative side, and a subordinant side as a fundamental law to negative/positive theories. For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.... Just some are beta moves and some are alpha. Which ones are you exhibiting?